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brian, no one wants their taxes to go up. we know come tuesday, everyone who gets a paycheck will get less money in it unless a deal is reached. i know you've been talking to people and getting the pulse of the country, what are they saying to you? >> you know, martin, you're right, gallup did a recent poll taking a look at this. let's take a look. the recent poll shows that 68% of americans are saying lawmakers are should compromise in order to reach this fiscal cliff solution. only 22% think those lawmakers need to stick to their guns and not budge. either on tax increases or spending cuts. >> so we know that gridlock has been a big problem and we're seeing more, it appears on this issue. in the end could this result in who has the upper hand in public support? >> that's the game they're playing, is it the republicans to blame or the democrats? president obama has seen an increase in his numbers as they've been going through this. as you saw with dana bash, they're at a standstill, who knows what they're going to do. we ask
brian, no one wants their taxes to go up. we know come tuesday, everyone who gets a paycheck will get less money in it unless a deal is reached. i know you've been talking to people and getting the pulse of the country, what are they saying to you? >> you know, martin, you're right, gallup did a recent poll taking a look at this. let's take a look. the recent poll shows that 68% of americans are saying lawmakers are should compromise in order to reach this fiscal cliff solution. only 22%...
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the tax policy center, it's called the tax calculator. it allows you to plug in all sorts of information about yourself and family, to find out how your taxes would change based on all sorts of factors. now, it is just an estimate. it can't predict the future. but there are some really good ways to find out how the fiscal cliff would hit you at home. what we've done, we've taken a couple generic examples. let's start off with this one right here. this is a married couple with one child in college. if this couple has an income around $39,000 tax bill goes up $2,700. look at that right there. that's a big chunk of money out of that income. if they're making about $84,000. they'll be paying another $3,000 in taxes. and if this couple has high income, more than $137,000 they're looking at another $8,000 in taxes. that's just one set of generic examples there. there are all sorts of things along the way you can look at. depends what the deducks would be. let's take a look at this one here. if you're looking at a single person with no children,
the tax policy center, it's called the tax calculator. it allows you to plug in all sorts of information about yourself and family, to find out how your taxes would change based on all sorts of factors. now, it is just an estimate. it can't predict the future. but there are some really good ways to find out how the fiscal cliff would hit you at home. what we've done, we've taken a couple generic examples. let's start off with this one right here. this is a married couple with one child in...
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the other place is the estate tax. the estate tax is scheduled to rise by quite a bit at the stroke of midnight tomorrow night. republicans want to keep it low, democrats want it to go up a little bit. there's room for compromise there. and so, you know, it's not just marginal rates that are going up, there's a series of taxes that they're going to change. the thing that could not be settled today was this change cpi. essentially a benefit cut for social security recipients. that led to a breakdown in negotiations today, because republicans wanted those benefit cuts to social security. and democrats said no way. and that was the sticking point and that's when this thing moved from the senate over to biden and mcconnell where it is and will be overnight. we're not going to know until tomorrow morning if they come up with something. >> yes, and the senate went home, obviously. here's my question. i know we're americans, we're very myopic, we like to think everything is just about us here. this isn't just about americans,
the other place is the estate tax. the estate tax is scheduled to rise by quite a bit at the stroke of midnight tomorrow night. republicans want to keep it low, democrats want it to go up a little bit. there's room for compromise there. and so, you know, it's not just marginal rates that are going up, there's a series of taxes that they're going to change. the thing that could not be settled today was this change cpi. essentially a benefit cut for social security recipients. that led to a...
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the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president obama says it a lot. the average family will end up spending $2,000 more if the fiscal cliff is not averted. let me show you something. you can find out how it would impact you directly by using this. there's a lot of numbers you have to plug in to make sense of it. obviously it can't be exact, it can't be precise, it can't predict the future, but i want to show you some examples we have pulled out. let's go to the graphic here that has a few of the examples we're showing you here. it would take, for example, this scenario, married with no
the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president...
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but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays
but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner,...
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going over the cliff, tax rates go up for everybody and then a vote, a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans. instead of a vote to raise taxes for 1% of americans and it makes much more likely to get republican support. they can make it retroactive to january 1st, fix a lot of things that are going to go haywire if we go past january 1st without a deal, thomas. >> mike, great to see you. thank you, sir. >>> want to bring in the political power panel for this wednesday morning, lynn sweet, keith boykin and alice stewart. great to see all of you here. post-merry christmas to everybody. i want to start by showing the latest gallup information on what americans are feeling right now, gang. about the fears of the fiscal cliff. deal likely at 50%, deal not likely at 48%. and this is gone down continually as we have seen, lynn, over several days, whether more optimism before the christmas holiday and continues to evaporate the closer to the cliff but talking about what the president can do coming back, can it about a small stop gap measure to save people after the 1st? >> it could be and i've alway
going over the cliff, tax rates go up for everybody and then a vote, a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans. instead of a vote to raise taxes for 1% of americans and it makes much more likely to get republican support. they can make it retroactive to january 1st, fix a lot of things that are going to go haywire if we go past january 1st without a deal, thomas. >> mike, great to see you. thank you, sir. >>> want to bring in the political power panel for this wednesday morning,...
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president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. >>> but in a last minnesota minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front, and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect, starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would exp
president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and...
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taxes because these are tax deferred accounts. >> okay, so probably safe to say don't touch them but how can you avoid the knee-jerk reactions when you see you're losing so much money? >> we've seen it. in 2009, the sky is falling, chicken little and everything's going wrong and we can't seem to, we want to jump out of the market. those in 2009 missed a 130% return in the market because they dived out at the bottom. we don't want to be a part of the individuals who as we want to buy, we want to buy low and sell high and that might be an old cliche but it works. what a lot of individuals are trying to do, they're doing is i want to sell, get rid of the risk and jump out because the fiscal cliff seems too much to take. this is one small blip in a long-term scheme of investment strategy. five plus years we should be looking at, not just a few months time span that's caused by political agenda. our economic agenda and fiscal house says let's not make any rash decisions and do some things that we'd look back on and say i missed a lot of good return. >> all right, thank you so much, ryan m
taxes because these are tax deferred accounts. >> okay, so probably safe to say don't touch them but how can you avoid the knee-jerk reactions when you see you're losing so much money? >> we've seen it. in 2009, the sky is falling, chicken little and everything's going wrong and we can't seem to, we want to jump out of the market. those in 2009 missed a 130% return in the market because they dived out at the bottom. we don't want to be a part of the individuals who as we want to...
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist raffle, and cornell belcher. the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned, that will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up or down vote. >> what you're likely to see is somet
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the...
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention to the tone
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets...
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the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone wants to see a secretary hagel. why some of the loudest voices with coming from his own party. >>> and 2012 is almost history. but what's the takeaway? comedian dean obeidallah schools us. >>> and also good news to tell you about a story we have been reporting on tonight. two missing georgia boys have been found safe in austin, texas. their father, the man who allegedly kidnapped them has been taken into c
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they want tax reform. so do democrats want tax reform but they have different ideas about how to do it it. it's kicking the can down the road. there will be a lot more ahead on this. >> brianna keilar breaking it down for us at the white house. thanks for that. >>> eight senators voted against this compromised measure, but the opposition didn't fall along party lines. tom harkin, tom krarner and michael bennett all voted now. so did these five republicans. let's put the politics to the side for a minute and ask the question most of us are wondering. what does this measure mean for you and your wallet? ali velshi is crunch iing the numbers. >> good morning. the first thing is the payroll tax holiday goes away. everybody is going to get a little less in their paycheck every month. that's going to hit the economy. it's a tax holiday that you had that we're losing now. if you earn more than $400,000 as an individual or $450,000 as a household, you'll be paying higher taxes in 2013. that won't hit you yet. noth
they want tax reform. so do democrats want tax reform but they have different ideas about how to do it it. it's kicking the can down the road. there will be a lot more ahead on this. >> brianna keilar breaking it down for us at the white house. thanks for that. >>> eight senators voted against this compromised measure, but the opposition didn't fall along party lines. tom harkin, tom krarner and michael bennett all voted now. so did these five republicans. let's put the politics...
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the headline, you know, item is tax estimates. tax revenues and where tax rates will increase. what's the threshold. democrats have been saying that they would like tax increases to affect households that make $250,000 and more. they would also insist on extending unemployment benefits. they would like to see -- the president would like a delay in those automatic spending cuts, those massive spending cuts that congress set into motion that should hit beginning in the new year. and then also an increase in the estate tax, which is also planned to hit in the new year. republicans would like, in order to be able to vote for some sort of deal, to limit that threshold and where -- a limit the threshold where the tax increase hits so maybe instead of $250,000 maybe $400,000, a way to avoid that estate tax increase, they would like no delay in those spending cuts, so that they will start to hit in the new year. and they would like democrats to agree to pay for the unemployment benefits. now we don't know if -- which of these items would be in the deal they're working out today, except
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>> back in '69 they came out with something called "minimum tax." and in '82, the alternative minimum tax and this was a way to make sure the ch wealthy pay their fair share. this is how to level the playing field a little bit. this simply says now it's around $74,500. if -- it will go down to about $45,000 if the fiscal cliff goes off and nothing is done to adjust it. individuals now getting $45,000 back in '82 when first enarngted which is a lot different than $45,000 today. so if individuals earning $45,000 today might be impacted by additional taxes by this amt if something's not done. and, again, this is just a way to try to -- the problem with the amt is it wasn't adjusted for inflation so as time went on and prices have gone up and people have made more money and inflation has gone into place, things have not adjusted for the what the amt is now currently so this is going to be a big piece and those in the finance world are looking at making sure that this thing doesn't come into play. come 2014, people will have a big surprise if they file t
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the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone wants to see a secretary hagel. why some of the loudest voices with coming from his own party. >>> and 2012 is almost history. but what's the takeaway? comedian dean obeidallah schools us with his top ten lessons of 2012. >>> and also good news to tell you about a story we have been reporting on tonight. two missing georgia boys have been found safe in austin, texas. their father, the man who allegedly kid
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the bush era tax cuts expire, and it's not clear what the tax rate would be. but the average household would see a tax increase of $3500 a year. that is according to the fax policy center. what about the 2012 tax returns? well, there would no fix for the alternative minimum tax, and that would delay tax filings. as many as 100 million people might not be able to file their return until late march. that means tax refunds could also be delayed, and some major tax credits would expire as well including the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. >>> from a mars landing to a deep water dive, scientific and technical breakthroughs this past year were amazing. here's john zarrella with a look at the top 10. >> at number 10 a revolutionary camera called litro. >> it's such a powerful technology breakthrough, that this will forever change how we take and experience pictures. >> it captures the entire light field ail louse the focus and perspective to be changed after its been taken. number nine, nasa's dawn spacecraft sent back staggers data about an as tro
the bush era tax cuts expire, and it's not clear what the tax rate would be. but the average household would see a tax increase of $3500 a year. that is according to the fax policy center. what about the 2012 tax returns? well, there would no fix for the alternative minimum tax, and that would delay tax filings. as many as 100 million people might not be able to file their return until late march. that means tax refunds could also be delayed, and some major tax credits would expire as well...
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the tax rate. no matter what it is on the rich or not on the rich will not solve the big huge impending doom. >> that's right exactly right. you said it. the latest proposal from the president, of course, did not have the kind of long and short-term and mid term spending reform that we need. the federal government right now is it as we all know, spending more than a trillion dollars year upon year since the president took office, more than a trillion over budget year upon year. that has to stop. >> and you are putting faith in harry reid to come back with some proposal that will meet that in the next six days? where are you? >>ist a good question. senator reid without the past two years has not worked in -- in any very productive way with the house majority. and we do in the house represent the american people, at least as much as the senate majority does and we do need to work together and you are right. we have had roadblocks and obstructions and ignoring the bills we sent over time and time agai
the tax rate. no matter what it is on the rich or not on the rich will not solve the big huge impending doom. >> that's right exactly right. you said it. the latest proposal from the president, of course, did not have the kind of long and short-term and mid term spending reform that we need. the federal government right now is it as we all know, spending more than a trillion dollars year upon year since the president took office, more than a trillion over budget year upon year. that has...
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childcare and dependent tax credit. earned income tax credit. and the american opportunity tax credit, part of the stimulus the president pushed through in 2009. that's a tax credit for people sending kids through college. these would refer to earlier tax credit levels. that would be money out of people's pockets. a lot of people who say this say it definitely hurts lower income families more than anything else. that said, i just spoke to senator johnny isakson, a republican, and he's sounding optimistic. >> i think we stand close to a deal. first of all, i'm not sure i have the inside information, but i do believe that the revenue issue is no longer a question. the question is making sure that any new revenues go toward debt spending reduction and deficit relief rather than new spending. it's deficits that got us into this problem. it's only reducing the deficit that's will get us out of this problem. >> the key there is it's my best belief that they've reached an agreement on revenues, that means on this issue of raising taxes on the wealthies
childcare and dependent tax credit. earned income tax credit. and the american opportunity tax credit, part of the stimulus the president pushed through in 2009. that's a tax credit for people sending kids through college. these would refer to earlier tax credit levels. that would be money out of people's pockets. a lot of people who say this say it definitely hurts lower income families more than anything else. that said, i just spoke to senator johnny isakson, a republican, and he's sounding...
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politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last week from a respiratory illness. he was 88 years old. following that the president went to visit the grave of his old grandfather who is buried at the very same cemetery. >> he will be missed and remembered, as he was on sunday. >>> christmas eve, of course. crunch time for holiday travelers. a big storm out west, delay
politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass...
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taxes are an issue there. i think the election of francois alaund and his rate on the top end as well as some of the other things he's doing in france, lowering the retirement age, this is sort of a litmus test in some ways and it's important. maybe richard can tell me i need to learn more about the british tax code. icons on the edge. a number of names you know at home, jcpenney, best buy stock has been hammered, the maker of the blackberry, once iconic, now struggling. >> they're gone. >> they're not gone. >> last one. congratulations. >> they're struggling, and i think it's the end of an era for some companies. the $25 billion bank settlement, a huge deal. some people said it was not enough. whatever your thoughts are, it was a big story. facebook, you remember them? they have come back in the last six weeks. everyone thought this was an ipo that was going to soar. >> who manages that company? >> mark zuckerberg. that guy right there. >> poorly, i would submit. >> he built it, so who are we to judge, right?
taxes are an issue there. i think the election of francois alaund and his rate on the top end as well as some of the other things he's doing in france, lowering the retirement age, this is sort of a litmus test in some ways and it's important. maybe richard can tell me i need to learn more about the british tax code. icons on the edge. a number of names you know at home, jcpenney, best buy stock has been hammered, the maker of the blackberry, once iconic, now struggling. >> they're gone....
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to cut taxes. a much easier vote to cast for republicans as well as some democrats. as for the president, is he nhe scheduled to leave his family tonight, come back to washington tomorrow morning, in the hopes of helping his fellow democrats try to find enough republicans to pass his plan. but of course this goes without saying that was a plan that most if not all republicans campaigned very strongly against. >> the most likely scenario is actually did go off the cliff now. ryan liza is our correspondent from washington. you look at this and we're hearing echos of the past. the republican speaker from the house of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denny was the speakner nea differ
to cut taxes. a much easier vote to cast for republicans as well as some democrats. as for the president, is he nhe scheduled to leave his family tonight, come back to washington tomorrow morning, in the hopes of helping his fellow democrats try to find enough republicans to pass his plan. but of course this goes without saying that was a plan that most if not all republicans campaigned very strongly against. >> the most likely scenario is actually did go off the cliff now. ryan liza is...
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that's the alternative minimum tax. also the wealth tax. conceived to prevent the wealthy from paying no taxes at all through deductions. congress has failed to pass an a adjustment to keep the amt from roping in lower taxpayers. irs was expecting that to happen. if congress fails to do so, revenue officials will start a lengthy and costly process of reprogramming computers. it could be march until effective taxpayers can file. >>> an interactive map is causing outrage in one community. what do all these little red dots mean? what do they locate? and why is a new newspaper under fire? we'll explain. year-end event. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male an
that's the alternative minimum tax. also the wealth tax. conceived to prevent the wealthy from paying no taxes at all through deductions. congress has failed to pass an a adjustment to keep the amt from roping in lower taxpayers. irs was expecting that to happen. if congress fails to do so, revenue officials will start a lengthy and costly process of reprogramming computers. it could be march until effective taxpayers can file. >>> an interactive map is causing outrage in one...
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do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate majority leader harry reid tries to cobble together something that can get some republican support. we'll be waiting to see exactly when president obama is coming back but we understand that the senate even though it reconvenes on thursday may not, senate democrats may not roll out a bill until closer to the new year. also get some republican support and put pressure on the house to take it up. >> we'll be following that very closely. have a wonderful christmas and of course we'll talk with you a little bit later. if there are any developments on the fiscal cliff. stay with cnn for any movement on that standoff day or night. we're the woolstons in turkey. i'm joel. >> katy, sidney, brittany. >> we'd like
do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate majority leader harry reid tries to cobble together something that can get some republican support. we'll...
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he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> so, hey, merry christmas. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president in honolulu. brianna, are the white house and republicans even talking? >> reporter: no. they're not, carol. there's no substantive discussions going on between the white house and senate democrats and senate republicans and house republicans. and this is key because in order for the cliff to be averted, there will need to be something passed through congress in both the senate and the house that would require the work of both democrats and republicans. that is very much an issue as all attention now turns toward the senate, which will reconvene on thursday. a lot of focus there. that's where things are expected to start. right now the white house is still saying that they want a plan to avert tax hikes for folks making $25000 or less. it's sort of unlikely, it se
he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> so, hey, merry christmas. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president in honolulu. brianna, are the white house and republicans even talking? >> reporter: no. they're not, carol. there's no substantive discussions going on between the white house and senate democrats and...
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big cuts in the pentagon and big tax hikes. the white house, from all indications that i've seen, they don't want that to happen. they are scared of what could happen to the markets. >> why aren't they dalg dealing with boehner? dana, be go ahead. jumpb in here. >> i think they won their negotiating power once boehner last week failed. as dana pushed out, the only thing that can get boehner is to do something. >> reporter: i think that you're right when i said that democrats don't think that the president will have much political damage. that does seem to be coming more from democrats here in congress than in the white house. democrats here in congress feel that it's a win-win for them politically. the one thing i will tell you very quickly, the pushback on this narrative that i heard from senate republican leader in the hallway. he said, do you remember who the speaker was during the hoover administration? i said, no. he said, that's my point. nobody will remember who the speaker was if ge into a recession but it's the preside
big cuts in the pentagon and big tax hikes. the white house, from all indications that i've seen, they don't want that to happen. they are scared of what could happen to the markets. >> why aren't they dalg dealing with boehner? dana, be go ahead. jumpb in here. >> i think they won their negotiating power once boehner last week failed. as dana pushed out, the only thing that can get boehner is to do something. >> reporter: i think that you're right when i said that democrats...
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that also means a delay in tax refunds. the treasury department normally sends out about $72 million in tax refunds in january and february. that would not happen if the fiscal cliff comes. they wouldn't be able to keep up with the workload. and there would be unexpected higher taxes for most americans because remember, that's another part of the equation. so many different groups could be hit in many different ways at many times. but the bottom line is if these negotiations continue to stall and don't come through and the cliff comes, people will, indeed, feel it all over this country. >>> u.s. army general whose temper earned him the name stormin' norman has died. general norman schwarzkopf was one of the most celebrated military leaders in the post-vietnam era. he led coalition forces pushing iraq out of kuwait in 1991's "operation desert storm." the retired general died yesterday in tampa, florida, at age 78. >>> former president george h.w. bush released this statement. he says, "general schwarzkopf epitomized the duty
that also means a delay in tax refunds. the treasury department normally sends out about $72 million in tax refunds in january and february. that would not happen if the fiscal cliff comes. they wouldn't be able to keep up with the workload. and there would be unexpected higher taxes for most americans because remember, that's another part of the equation. so many different groups could be hit in many different ways at many times. but the bottom line is if these negotiations continue to stall...
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and defending on details of your own situation, various tax breaks slipping away. in other words what we're calling the fiscal cliff. a plan to stop it all from happening still alludes washington, so congress has broken camp for the holidays and the president has gone to holiday on vacation. brianna keilar is out there for us in honolulu, eight days away from the fiscal cliff. are there any contacts occurring on this topic between the president and anyone in congress, briana? >> reporter: there is an open line of communication, i would say, with senate democrats, hala. but there is really no substantive conversations between the folks that you with need for there to be conversations between in order to strike a deal. the white house and congressional republicans, and perhaps more alarmingly, senate democrats are not in conversations right now with senate republicans or with house republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and
and defending on details of your own situation, various tax breaks slipping away. in other words what we're calling the fiscal cliff. a plan to stop it all from happening still alludes washington, so congress has broken camp for the holidays and the president has gone to holiday on vacation. brianna keilar is out there for us in honolulu, eight days away from the fiscal cliff. are there any contacts occurring on this topic between the president and anyone in congress, briana? >> reporter:...